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    Player welfare: Kieran Longbottom collapses

    A worrying incident for the former Force prop

    Planet Rugby: 28th Apr 2015, 09:43

    The battle between Premiership giants Northampton and Saracens was supposed to serve as a great advert for the game but sadly the outstanding effort of both sides was overshadowed by what appeared to be another shocking incident of a serious injury not being managed correctly.

    Just a few short weeks after Wales wing George North was allowed to play on after a clear head clash and suspected concussion was missed by medics during the Six Nations clash with England, Saracens prop Kieran Longbottom was given the green light to continue despite suffering a similarly alarming injury.

    Longbottom, making his long-awaited return from a long-term foot injury, appeared to pass out under the pressure of a second half scrum.

    In front of a 30,000 crowd at stadium:mk and a bumper TV audience, he collapsed as the scrum broke up and his face hammered into the turf. Replays suggested he may have also suffered a mild fit with his body appearing to convulse as he lay on the ground.

    His Saracens team-mate Kelly Brown, to his immense credit, immediately registered Longbottom's plight and went to his aid and thankfully he appeared to swiftly recover consciousness.

    After suffering such an alarming injury you would have thought that Longbottom would have been withdrawn – but sadly no. After a check by the Saracens medics he was soon packing down again.

    You could perhaps understand the naturalised Australian-born prop wanting to remain in the mix having sat out for so long, and also been linked with a possible promotion to the England ranks, but that decision was not his to make.

    Quite simply he should have been withdrawn by the medics, his coaches or just dragged off the field by anyone present who saw the incident unfold on a TV screen.

    .... Read more: http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,2..._45982,00.html

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    That is bloody awful news - I really hope he is being looked after now.

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    Considering how many Super Rugby players have been recently dragged for the concussion test, with quiet a few not returning in the match, it is nothing short of a disgrace IMHO.

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    Totally agree with you both. Disgraceful and downright disgusting of the medical staff. Do they have too much conflict between their medical ethics and the demands of their employers?

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    Medics appointed by governing bodies need to oversee concussion tests not club doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    Medics appointed by governing bodies need to oversee concussion tests not club doctors.
    Yep, has to be neutral. Where they can be prosecuted for malpractice instead of being pissed off their team lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    Medics appointed by governing bodies need to oversee concussion tests not club doctors.
    I'm unsure of the situation in the Aviva Premiership, but in the Super 15 in Australia this is certainly the case.

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    Medical staff should be appointed by the Players Association.

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    Putting on my manager's hat here for a bit. The player has to take some responsibility. I mean obviously they want to stay on the field. But they probably get more information about concussions & see it firsthand; so are more informed about the long term side effects & risks they are flirting with by playing on. If they know that they have copped a smack to the head and are feeling a little sleepy, they should tell the trainers they're probably not ok. Seeing as if it keeps going, they are the ones who will be joining a class action after they retire (IE NFL lawsuit). when they had a duty of care as an employee to report all injuries and adopt best practice in injury management & rehabilitation. Just as their employer has a dury of care to keep them "as safe as reasonably practicable" (to quote the fair work act).

    It goes both ways, so the doctor, club & the league can't take all the blame here. The player & to a lesser degree the match day officials need to be held more accountable.
    When you're concussed you might not actually realise it. But if you've been unconscious on the field, the doc asks you what day it was & if you remember being knocked out or waking back up. You should sit the rest of the game out. Same goes if you get nauseous or actually throw up.

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    When you're concussed you're hardly thinking straight!

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    Ah it's in England.. Where the lower classes are historically worth a few cents less..

    And man how we've missed this bloke in the local jersey this year..
    That's a pretty distressing story..

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiussentiment View Post
    Ah it's in England.. Where the lower classes are historically worth a few cents less..

    And man how we've missed this bloke in the local jersey this year..
    That's a pretty distressing story..
    Rugby union has lower classes?

    But yes I agree on both of your next two points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beige View Post
    Rugby union has lower classes?

    But yes I agree on both of your next two points.
    Colonials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Putting on my manager's hat here for a bit. The player has to take some responsibility.
    You can't be serious, any coach or manager with the slightest regard for his players should pull the player if he's been concussed, end of story, player doesn't get a say.

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