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    Rugby needs 30 sec scrum limit: Cheika

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    David Barbeler
    March 16, 2014, 12:13 pm


    A frustrated NSW Waratahs coach Michael Cheika has called on officials to limit rugby union's time-consuming scrums to 30 seconds after Saturday's last-gasp loss to the Brumbies.

    The Waratahs fell agonisingly short of reeling in a 16-point deficit in the final 20 minutes of their 28-23 Super Rugby loss in Canberra, and Cheika has no doubts what aspect of the game cost his side precious minutes to deliver the finishing blow over their grudge rivals.

    "The amount of time it's taking to set the scrums. It's just taking far too long," Cheika said.

    "You want the ball in, you want to play, but we wasted an unbelievable amount of time at scrummage.

    "Everyone would like that, me included, especially when you're chasing games."

    New scrum laws have been introduced in 2014 to help increase actual game time, with the "crouch, bind, set" system requiring packs to bind in advance and stay stationary until the ball is in.

    But Cheika wants to speed things up even more.

    He raised the issue with SANZAR game manager Lyndon Bray at the referees' meeting at the start of the year - but has heard nothing back since.

    "We asked if we could bring in a rule from the time the whistle blows, by 30 seconds the ball should be in," Cheika said.

    "It was a good idea at the time and everyone was there, but that was it."

    Cheika also drew issue with penalties awarded at the scrum.

    There were 14 scrums in Saturday's match, the Brumbies winning all five of their own, as well as earning penalties in several of the Waratahs' nine feeds.

    "There's just inconsistency across the board around who's collapsing, who's wheeling," Cheika said.

    "I was really disappointed with the scrum at the end there that they got given again, when really that ball should have been given to us."

    While the ensuing penalty goal from that scrum shut the door on the Waratahs, that didn't stop Cheika from all-too-hastily opening one of his own.

    He stormed out the of the coaching box with such force that he accidentally splintered the laminated glass door.

    The loss means the Brumbies are the new leaders of the Australian conference, although the Waratahs trail by just two competition points with one extra game to play.

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    I've seen it somewhere else (). But a good rule could be that where one side has formed a complete scrum, time off is blown immediately. Any further and obvious time-wasting could see a free kick awarded.

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    Too much time is wasted with scrum resets.

    Stopping the clock if scrum needs to be reset would see the ball in play for more time which can only be a good thing

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    Would he be complaining if the result had gone the Tahs' way?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Would he be complaining if the result had gone the Tahs' way?!
    He says he raised the problem pre-season. He's on the money in this case.

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    Should be automatic time off when the ball is not in play with a 90 second restart clock. If the game is not restarted in 90 seconds the team causing the delay is penalised.

    For scrums time would be off until the ball is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invictus View Post
    Should be automatic time off when the ball is not in play with a 90 second restart clock. If the game is not restarted in 90 seconds the team causing the delay is penalised.

    For scrums time would be off until the ball is in.
    You might end up with a game more like American Football, especially as the TV companies will see the 90-second restart as a chance for a commercial break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    You might end up with a game more like American Football, especially as the TV companies will see the 90-second restart as a chance for a commercial break.
    Probably wouldn't interest Fox Sports but a stoppage like that may interest a FTA network into picking up a game or two in the next TV deal.

    Unfortunately I'm dreaming of a media deal comparable to AFL/NRL which will never happen.

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    Cheika and the Tahs have apparently been handed a $700 repair bill for smashed glass at Canberra Stadium.

    And they want Jaco Peyper to pay for it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post
    And they want Jaco Peyper to pay for it!!
    If theres anything better than the Tahs losing; it's the Tahs losing and coughing up for the coach's $700 dummy spit!!

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    But the Tahs are strapped for cash; the ARU are paying the $700 anyway!

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    So we give a single kicker 90 seconds for a conversion and he believes we'll be able to get 16 guys sorted, in position and scrum started in 30.

    What's he smoking? I want some.

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    Chieka will have to train his players better as gthey are pretty slow at getting to a scrum and lineouts as most have to come from offside positions

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