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    Shake-up for Perth rugby

    The West Australian
    Nick Taylor
    December 13, 2013, 7:22 am


    Perth rugby has been forced into a major overhaul because of the new National Rugby Championship.

    RugbyWA is reviewing future seasons and has already scrapped the traditional September finals series because the competition must be completed before the opening NRC games on August 23.

    Clubs have been given five options that include an earlier start to the competition and cutting the finals series from three games to two.

    The new domestic competition will include teams from Perth, Canberra and Melbourne, with as many as seven sides from NSW and Queensland.

    Planning for the Perth team is in its infancy, but one major decision will be where to play home games because RugbyWA cannot afford to make a loss.

    Grounds will need to be secure and have suitable spectator, broadcast and lighting facilities, ruling out local rugby clubs.

    The cost of the Force home ground, nib Stadium, could be restrictive unless a deal is worked out, raising the prospect of Australian Rules and local soccer venues being used.

    Size could be a problem at soccer grounds because pitches for rugby should be 100m long and 70m wide, with in-goal areas at least 10m deep.

    The Perth side will be closely aligned to the Force Super and extended player squads, its wider training group and academy. Local fringe players will also be given an opportunity.

    Super Rugby players not in the Wallabies squad will be expected to play.

    The side will not be called Western Force A.

    RugbyWA could revert to WA Gold, the traditional representative team name, or Perth Spirit that was used in the ill-fated Australian Rugby Championship that lasted just one season in 2007 before it was scrapped by the ARU.

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/spo...r-perth-rugby/

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    It had better be Perth spirit!

    What are uni's grounds like?
    Or the training pitch at rugby WA? Did the new ones come with some seating? Or was the only one that was there the one paly bought?

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    RugbyWA only has a patch of grass at the back about half pitch size.
    I don't think any grounds have lights strong enough for TV (maybe the games will be Sat afternoons) and no grounds have stands and all the other infrastructure needed. It's a lot different from just sticking up a hesian fence around a ground for local games.

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    might be a moot point, but, Curtin are in the planning stages of "greater Curtin"
    this is inclusive of a "sporting precinct", involving the already existing hockeyWA stadium, and a relocation of the existing rugby clubrooms and pitch to the west north west corner of the campus. While it is a few years off, the short of the long is: Curtin (properties and planning) are looking for people to chip in development costs, obviously with reciprocal payoffs, of use, naming rights and collaboration with the uni.
    (in the case of corporate/industry involvement, the WA chem centre is a good example, in which BHP coughed up for a majority of the building costs, and our researches are then set to work on various tasks assisting the company along the way)
    after talking to Pek about TRC, and how it should align with a uni, this would make perfectly good sense, while our current facilities wont stand up to TV/security/sponsor requirements, we are clearly eager to follow the path of the American Universities, lumping sports grounds on campus to attract a 'weekend' and 'afterhours' presence to our ghostly grounds.
    on top of that, we've got full sports training facilities, various levels of infrastructure, a sport science/physiotherapy school, business school etc etc.
    and, since this is now in writing, SURELY Id get a box for suggesting it!

    http://properties.curtin.edu.au/master-plan/plan.cfm

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    Could they look into what the Glory was looking at last year and play the games at the hockey stadium on the turf? Plently of clubs up north are making the move to synthetic pitches could mix things up.

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    The only local football ground (the football that has a four cornered pitch) that I can think of would be Dorrien Gardens. It is secure IIRC but has seating only on one side and that is only for about 1000-1500. There is quite a bit of standing room though. Any othere secure suburban pitches out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAFFA View Post
    Could they look into what the Glory was looking at last year and play the games at the hockey stadium on the turf? Plently of clubs up north are making the move to synthetic pitches could mix things up.
    playing hockey on hockey turf is bad enough but playing rugby on what is essentially carpet covered concrete is not my idea of fun.
    There is a real risk of too many injuries!

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    Once again Nick Taylor's article starts off by trading on the negative.
    You'd love to see the West start an article about Rugby in a positive way...... eg Perth rugby young guns given the opportunity to showcase their talent in a new National Rugby Competition.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MI5_Dog View Post
    playing hockey on hockey turf is bad enough but playing rugby on what is essentially carpet covered concrete is not my idea of fun.
    There is a real risk of too many injuries!
    I agree but there are newer turfs that are being used up north with out the burning the Cardiff blues just signed off on change to synthetics and rumour has it that Millennium stadium is next.

    Just thinking outside the box.

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    ouch, how do they make it so you do not get the carpet burn ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post

    The cost of the Force home ground, nib Stadium, could be restrictive unless a deal is worked out, raising the prospect of Australian Rules and local soccer venues being used.

    Size could be a problem at soccer grounds because pitches for rugby should be 100m long and 70m wide, with in-goal areas at least 10m deep./url]
    Rosalie Park,think there's still rugby goalpost's in the bushes too

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    The only local football ground (the football that has a four cornered pitch) that I can think of would be Dorrien Gardens. It is secure IIRC but has seating only on one side and that is only for about 1000-1500. There is quite a bit of standing room though. Any othere secure suburban pitches out there?

    Possibly Lark Hill? The lights would do the trick. There's a bar there. Again only one stand though...

    Where'd all the scaffold from NIB go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Possibly Lark Hill? The lights would do the trick. There's a bar there. Again only one stand though...

    Where'd all the scaffold from NIB go?
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    Lark Hill is not secure, at least on the 'right' side of the grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Possibly Lark Hill? The lights would do the trick. There's a bar there. Again only one stand though...

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    Inglewood soccer ground has a small grandstand and all the old glory seating/scaffold stacked up. Think glory played there when nib was having work done so may be ok as far as lights/capacity but not sure about size...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    ouch, how do they make it so you do not get the carpet burn ?
    They don't, because you do.

    but worse than that you need to play on them while they are wet, which means they are built with a slight but noticable slope towards the edges to let the water run off, now add the hard surface with a slight gradient and a bloke weighing in at 100+ kilos and you are asking for soft tissue damage in all the joints.
    Plus you can't wear studs as they ruin the playing surface.

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