Team: Argentina v Wallabies Rosario 6 Oct 13

[travelling_gerry]

ARGENTINA V WALLABIES, Rosario, Sunday 6.40am WST

Wallabies: 15. Israel Folau, 14. Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13. Tevita Kuridrani, 12. Christian Lealiifano, 11. Joe Tomane, 10. Quade Cooper, 9. Will Genia, 8. Ben Mowen, 7. Michael Hooper, 6. Scott Fardy, 5. Rob Simmons, 4. James Horwill, 3. Ben Alexander, 2. Stephen Moore, 1. James Slipper.
Reserves: 16. Saia Faingaa, 17. Benn Robinson, 18. Sekope Kepu, 19. Sitaleki Timani, 20. Ben McCalman, 21. Nic White, 22. Matt Toomua, 23. Bernard Foley.


Argentina: 15. Juan Martin Hernandez, 14. Horacio Agulla, 13. Marcelo Bosch, 12. Felipe Contepomi, 11. Juan Imhoff, 10. Nicolas Sanchez, 9. Martin Landajo, 8. Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 7. Pablo Matera, 6. Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (captain), 5. Patricio Albacete, 4. Julio Faraacías Cabello, 3. Juan Figallo, 2. Eusebio Guiazaacú, 1. Marcos Ayerza.
Reserves: 16. Agustin Creevy, 17. Nahuel Lobo, 18. Juan Pablo Orlandi, 19. Manuel Carizza, 20. Benjamin Macome, 21. Tomas Cubelli, 22. Santiago Fernandez, 23. Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino.

[WFDom]

Apart from Genia is that not the same run on team as last week?

Cannot believe Ben Mac didn't get a start. That is shocking!

[Alison]

More than shocking - it's a bloody disgrace!! And big girl's blouse Genia is back too.

New coach; same old bias.

Not going to get up early on a Sunday morning to watch that lot.

Pumas by 5

[westies man]

More than shocking - it's a bloody disgrace!! And big girl's blouse Genia is back too.

New coach; same old bias.

Not going to get up early on a Sunday morning to watch that lot.

Pumas by 5

Hang on everyone I thought it was Dingo Deans that destroyed Wallaby rugby.I think everyone forgets that Mckenzie has to pick players from the same pool Deans had to

[Alison]

Hang on everyone I thought it was Dingo Deans that destroyed Wallaby rugby.I think everyone forgets that Mckenzie has to pick players from the same pool Deans had to

That's true.

But my main issue with this week's team selection is that McCalman was one of the best on field last week and made a noticeable difference when he came on so why isn't he starting this week if not on grounds of east coast selection bias? No point bringing him on later in the game when we're already 20 points behind. Why not play him from the whistle and get to HT 20 points up?

Genia has been pedestrian for a while now and yet still gets picked even though White is arguably in better overall form at the moment. Yes he was perhaps the world's best scrummie in 2011, but he isn't anymore imo.

As for the rest - meh!

[shasta]

Not going to get up early on a Sunday morning to watch that lot.

6:00am is not always early.........it can also be late. Just plan your home-time accordingly.

[Flying 14]

Why have Toomua and Foley on the bench? CFS at least offers options in the mid field and wing.
I can't believe that Benny Mac isn't starting. Strange as this would allow Mowen to play in his best position of 6 too.

[Alison]

6:00am is not always early.........it can also be late. Just plan your home-time accordingly.

Geez! I'm wayyyyyyy too old to be out after 10pm let alone all night!

[eleypinkbit]

It's on a much more reasonable time over east. I might even be up in time to watch it!
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[valzc]

Genia back in? Benny Mac out? WTF!!!!!!!!!!???

[GIGS20]

Genia has been pedestrian for a while now and yet still gets picked even though White is arguably in better overall form at the moment. Yes he was perhaps the world's best scrummie in 2011, but he isn't anymore imo.

As for the rest - meh!

Al, I'm not normally one to disagree with you, but you have pointed out that the team played better with Benny Mac on the field and he deserved to start, but have criticized Will Genia's selection even though he played pretty much the same minutes as Ben.

The Force colored glasses are getting in the way there, either they both deserve to be in or they both deserve to be out.

[Alison]

Fair comment GIGS, but did Genia have the same amount of impact when he came on as as Benny Mac? Not sure he did.

[GIGS20]

Wow, to say the 9 wasn't pivotal in the improvement is a pretty big call Al. Just because it wasn't obvious doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Genia would have been the link between the forwards and the backs, Genia would have been the eyes and ears of the pack at the breakdown, Genia would have been solely responsible for the quality of ball to the flyhalf. All pretty major parts of the game and I would argue that a resurgence pretty much doesn't happen with a poor 9

[palitu]

yeah, i thought that genia on had a big impact to the performance, same with Benny Mac. Has Ben had a par performance to Fardy? as that is who he will probably replace.

[GAFFA]

Fardy is a lock at the Brumbies and thats where he should be.

Mowan is a 6 at the Brumbies and thats where he should be.

Simmons is a waste of space at the Reds and an even bigger waste of space for the Wobs.

this is what the back 5 should look like.

4 Fardy
5 Horwill (who is on thin ice)
6 Mowan
7 Hooper
8 McCalman