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    Wallaby Squad named for Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship Test in Perth

    NSW Waratahs prop Paddy Ryan and Western Force winger Nick Cummins have been added to the Qantas Wallabies training group which will assemble in Perth on Sunday ahead of the resumption of The Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship.

    The pair have both previously been involved with the Wallabies this year, although Ryan missed some training time due to injury.

    A squad of 31 has been named with Queensland Reds winger Dominic Shipperley and his state colleague, midfield back Ben Tapuai, both coming into the enlarged main group after previously having trained alongside the squad.

    The addition of Cummins and Shipperley bolsters the side’s wing resources after the loss this week of experienced winger Drew Mitchell most likely for the season due to a reoccurring ankle tendon injury.

    Uncapped Queensland Reds loose forward Jake Schatz has also been ruled out due to a shoulder problem and will undergo further scans before a course of rehabilitation is charted.

    Brumbies inside centre Pat McCabe makes a welcome return, after injury ruled him out of the two Bledisloe Cup Tests which opened The Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship. He is continuing rehabilitation from the stress fracture in his foot. While the injury is progressing well, he won’t be considered for selection until Australia’s match against Argentina at Skilled Park on the Gold Coast on September 15 at the earliest.

    Five players – Caderyn Neville, Radike Samo, Mike Harris, Saia Fainga’a and Ben Tapuai, will tune up for their commitments in Perth playing club rugby in their home states tomorrow. That opportunity was denied other fringe members outside of the recent Test squad due to a lack of available games for their respective clubs.

    Although the Wallabies will arrive in Western Australia on Sunday afternoon and hold an open training on Monday, the match night squad of 22 players for the Perth Test will not be named until Tuesday afternoon.

    The Qantas Wallabies face the Springboks at Patterson’s Stadium on Saturday September 8 bidding to defend the Nelson Mandela Challenge Plate, which Australia has held since the epic 41-39 win over South Africa at Bloemfontein in 2010. This was the Wallabies’ first success at a high veldt venue in the Republic for 47 years.

    Australia has won its last four Tests against South Africa and will set a new record for the most consecutive wins achieved against the Springboks should the Wallabies win in Perth.

    Robbie Deans’ men currently stand tied with the class of 1999 and 2000 which also won four straight against the Boks.

    The South African squad, under new coach Heyneke Meyer, also arrives in Perth on Sunday.

    The Boks are unbeaten for the year, having won twice against England in June, and once against Argentina, while also drawing a match with both nations.

    After a win and a draw in the back-to-back matches against Argentina to open The Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship, South Africa sits second on the standings behind New Zealand.

    South Africa boasts an excellent record from Tests in Perth, which houses a large expatriate South African community, with the Springboks having gained wins from Tests played against the Wallabies in Western Australia in 1998, 2005 and 2009, while the 2001 match was drawn.

    Australia won the matches played in 2004 and 2008.

    No more than seven points have separated the two sides across the six Tests played between the teams in Western Australia since SANZAR competition began via the kick-off of the Tri Nations in 1996.


    The Castrol EDGE Rugby Championship / Mandela Challenge Plate Squad

    BACKS: Adam Ashley-Cooper (NSW Waratahs), Kurtley Beale (Melbourne Rebels), Digby Ioane (Queensland Reds), Dominic Shipperley (Queensland Reds), Nick Cummins (Western Force), Rob Horne (NSW Waratahs), Ben Tapuai (Queensland Reds), Anthony Fainga’a (Queensland Reds), Mike Harris (Queensland Reds), Pat McCabe (Brumbies), Berrick Barnes (NSW Waratahs), Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds), Nick Phipps (Melbourne Rebels), Will Genia (Queensland Reds, captain)

    FORWARDS: Scott Higginbotham (Queensland Reds), Radike Samo (Queensland Reds), Michael Hooper (Brumbies), Liam Gill (Queensland Reds), Dave Dennis (NSW Waratahs), Rob Simmons (Queensland Reds), Nathan Sharpe (Western Force), Kane Douglas (NSW Waratahs), Caderyn Neville (Melbourne Rebels), Sitaleki Timani (NSW Waratahs), Ben Alexander (Brumbies), Paddy Ryan (NSW Waratahs), James Slipper (Queensland Reds), Benn Robinson (NSW Waratahs), Saia Fainga’a (Queensland Reds), Stephen Moore (Brumbies), Tatafu Polota Nau (NSW Waratahs)

    http://www.rugby.com.au/wallabies/Ne...2/Default.aspx

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    HONEY BADGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    “Everyone knows whether it’s rugby, politics or whatever, front-rowers should rule the world, so to have a hooker at the helm makes sense,” Nathan Charles Western Force & Wallabies Hooker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAFFA View Post
    HONEY BADGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They'll just use the poor bugger for opposed training and stick with the same old mediocrity we have come to expect....

    Playing club rugby to tune up for test rugby... what a joke...

    We desperately need a national competition and a full Australia A program.

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    My team from this lot:

    BACKS: Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds), Dominic Shipperley (Queensland Reds), Nick Cummins (Western Force), Ben Tapuai (Queensland Reds), Digby Ioane (Queensland Reds), Mike Harris (Queensland Reds), Nick Phipps (Melbourne Rebels)

    FORWARDS: Sitaleki Timani (NSW Waratahs), Michael Hooper (Brumbies), Scott Higginbotham (Queensland Reds), Nathan Sharpe (Western Force, captain), Caderyn Neville (Melbourne Rebels), Paddy Ryan (NSW Waratahs), Stephen Moore (Brumbies), James Slipper (Queensland Reds)

    BENCH: Ben Alexander (Brumbies), Tatafu Polota Nau (NSW Waratahs), Kane Douglas (NSW Waratahs), Liam Gill (Queensland Reds), Will Genia (Queensland Reds), Adam Ashley-Cooper (NSW Waratahs), Berrick Barnes (NSW Waratahs)

    I might have two 3s? There are only four props in the squad and I HAVE to drop Robinson. Alexander can play both so on bench?? Sorry I'm not a prop expert, can't remember what Slipper and Ryan play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingbison View Post
    My team from this lot:

    BACKS: Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds), Dominic Shipperley (Queensland Reds), Nick Cummins (Western Force), Ben Tapuai (Queensland Reds), Digby Ioane (Queensland Reds), Mike Harris (Queensland Reds), Nick Phipps (Melbourne Rebels)

    FORWARDS: Sitaleki Timani (NSW Waratahs), Michael Hooper (Brumbies), Scott Higginbotham (Queensland Reds), Nathan Sharpe (Western Force, captain), Caderyn Neville (Melbourne Rebels), Paddy Ryan (NSW Waratahs), Stephen Moore (Brumbies), James Slipper (Queensland Reds)

    BENCH: Ben Alexander (Brumbies), Tatafu Polota Nau (NSW Waratahs), Kane Douglas (NSW Waratahs), Liam Gill (Queensland Reds), Will Genia (Queensland Reds), Adam Ashley-Cooper (NSW Waratahs), Berrick Barnes (NSW Waratahs)

    I might have two 3s? There are only four props in the squad and I HAVE to drop Robinson. Alexander can play both so on bench?? Sorry I'm not a prop expert, can't remember what Slipper and Ryan play.
    slipper is a 3 playing 1 and Paddy is a 3. Robbo was going really good on sat untill he got knocked out. I think it would be Robbo Moore Slipper with TPN and Alaxander on the bench.

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    I HATE Deans penchant for playing out of position (where is a genuine number 8 like Mowen?), but in this case I am (almost) happy to keep Slipper at 1 and leave Robinson out. A few messages need to be sent, and after watching QC interview the IQ seems to be well south of 90 so he and Genia are the messengers that are really easy to understand.

    I'm not actually happy though because I wouldn't have Slipper or Alexander anywhere near the squad given the chance. I cannot fathom why Holmes is not in the squad, its a frakking disgrace

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    I think Holmes is injured Bison. I agree, if he was fit he should definately be playing.

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    Honey Badger back in Wallabies Training Squad

    http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/08/31...Rugby+Union%29

    A Test debut in front of the home crowd would be sweet, would it not? Fingers crossed!

    Whoa.... how did I miss this thread that was already rolling? Sorry folks.

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    OK here is a question for piggies. Is it better to pick a 1 and 3 who actually play those positions full time (and select say a rodzilla because he is next on the list), or do a Deans and play a 1 at 3 even though he has never played there all season, but is considered a better scrummager (even though its playing 1) than the next best actual 3?

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    Well done to the Honey Badger

    He cant do any worse then nuffies who have been selected previously this year

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    Depends on the Player. Kepu is a THP but can play very well at LHP. There is abit of a myth that all THP's can play LHP but LHP's cant play TH. Which is rubbish. Props should be treated as different Positions completely. Same a Lock which make a huge difference if you hjave the right kind of guy on your arse.

    What deans is doing is as a result of Eddie Jones on the 2000's. They are converting number 8's into props in the hope that they will be able to hold up the scrum enough and their work rate around the ground will out weigh their lack of power in the scrum.

    It simply doesnt work like. Especially when you come up against the Frank brothers or some of the Welsh props and Argie props who have learn the dark arts over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingbison View Post
    My team from this lot:

    BACKS: Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds), Dominic Shipperley (Queensland Reds), Nick Cummins (Western Force), Ben Tapuai (Queensland Reds), Digby Ioane (Queensland Reds), Mike Harris (Queensland Reds), Nick Phipps (Melbourne Rebels)
    I'd LOVE to see Tapuai and Honey Badger in the centers. But we all know that will never happen - too much potential for excitement and GASP.... running! And, well, neither have much in the way of a kicking game and we know how integral kicking the ball away is to Dingo's game plan.

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    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    You know he'll play with all his got and not take it for granted like some of these other princesses. How in the hell does Horne keep getting picked? Does he have a video of Deans shagging a chook as blackmail or something?

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTT View Post
    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    PICK THE BADGER!!!

    You know he'll play with all his got and not take it for granted like some of these other princesses. How in the hell does Horne keep getting picked? Does he have a video of Deans shagging a Sheep as blackmail or something?

    PICK THE BADGER!!!
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingbison View Post
    OK here is a question for piggies. Is it better to pick a 1 and 3 who actually play those positions full time (and select say a rodzilla because he is next on the list), or do a Deans and play a 1 at 3 even though he has never played there all season, but is considered a better scrummager (even though its playing 1) than the next best actual 3?
    Always pick the specialist unless the available specialist is not as good as the more versatile cover all positions option.

    And you would not pick Rodzilla as he cannot scrummage to save his life. Worse than Alexander, if that is possible.

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