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[shasta]

management with balls

love it

This is a Rugby forum for me and I don't like too much politics creeping in. But, as the heat has gone out of this dispute I thought I'd raise a fact or two on this thread.

As of last Saturday the only industrial action taking place was the pilots wearing ties.
The Engineers had suspended any industrial action.
Qantas decided to go ahead with their premeditaed plan anyway.

What do you think the reaction would have been if the unions had pulled a full-on stoppage, in the middle of CHOGM, the Queens visit and a couple of days ahead of then Melbuorne Cup?

The whole nation would be calling for them to be outlawed as industrial terrorists of the worst kind. But that's exactly what that sawn-off little Irish git did. He saw the opportunity and held the nation and the government to ransom. The most any of the usual H R Nicholls brigade (are you a member Rex?) will say is that they had no choice. Bullshit. Worse still, many of these free marketeers are claimning the government should have become involved earlier. HR would have had them charged with heresy!!

Unions need to evolve. Forcing your employer to pay your members higher wages and conditions than your employer's competitors, means only one thing. Your employer goes out of business, and your members lose jobs.

Qantas either moves offshore or has to shrink. We can't compete with the cheaper labour overseas.

I'd agree with both those statements. But should a company who enjoys a whole heap of protection in the local market be even allowed to move jobs offshore while they have that protection? I'd say no. We need some of their regional guarantees. But after that act of betrayal, if they go ahead, I'd be cutting the Kangroo loose and auctioning of their protectection to the highest bidder. Hopefully Emirates.

[Burgs]

I'm keeping very quiet until they've got me there and back again...

[jono]

You have 17 ish dayside where no actions can take place.
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[palitu]

yeah. The industrial action had been going for a while. and they had just threatened 48hr strikes (not pilots, the other two). this was basically QANTAS having a 48hr strike. they got in before the unions did.

and they will pay for it. their end game was obviously the govt intervention. Like has been said, Unions need to change focus, and how they actually do these things. They are very much, do as little as possible and get the hard works, with work ethic, to carry the lazy pricks.

three drops on a ciggie paper and we are going home.

There was a time and place for unions. that time is basically up.

[jono]

Apart from the bit about working in the rain. You don't work in the rain.
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[GIGS20]

Apart from the bit about working in the rain. You don't work in the rain.
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I work in the rain, what are ya.....soft?

[The InnFORCEr]

Apart from the bit about working in the rain. You don't work in the rain.
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I work in the rain, what are ya.....soft?

Your the won what learnt him