Forward or Flat Passes?

[The InnFORCEr]

While watch the reply of the weekend matches on fox last night, I couldn't help but to notice what I thought were a few forward passes during the last 10 minutes of the Crusaders v Highlanders. So I rewound and freeze framed through the sequences (hitting the pause button really quickly) and I am sure these instances were forward passes

70:38 - Forward pass to Dagg as he busts the line and dives over for a try
72:47 - Forwrad pass to Guildford as he breaks the line.
73:20 - Forward pass from SBW to Crockett

Wouldn't have changed the result, but it shouldn't be happening so often IMHO.

[palitu]

just note that due to initial velocity (ie player running forward) the ball can actually move forward (relative to the pitch), as long as it moves backwards relative to the passer...

pretty much the person has to throw it backwards... This tends to comeunstuck on long looping passes, which technically are legal, but move so far forwards that they are called forward...

[The InnFORCEr]

just note that due to initial velocity (ie player running forward) the ball can actually move forward (relative to the pitch), as long as it moves backwards relative to the passer...

pretty much the person has to throw it backwards... This tends to comeunstuck on long looping passes, which technically are legal, but move so far forwards that they are called forward...

I understand that and did take it into consideration....

[jazza93]

The Crusaders do seem to be pushing the limits, i'll have a look tonight.

Those short passes can be legal if they are thrown flat/backwards at pace. Cooper is pretty good at it. But when it comes to offloads, its pretty hard to throw them at pace so if they are drifting forward something could be up.

[palitu]

I understand that and did take it into consideration....

cool,

for readers at home then

[Happy]

they're called the "reverse forward pass" TIF

[Sheikh]

I call them 'New Zealand Flat'. People tend to know what you mean by that!

[The EnForcer]

Covers the rule but a wee bit basic as there are loads more possibilities.

[eleypinkbit]

I agree - watched most of the games over the weekend and there were alot of "flat" passes. You'd think it would be the touch judge picking these up as they're the best positioned.

[The InnFORCEr]

That has really cleared things up...thanks TEF

[jono]

Has a touch judge raised a flag this season so far?
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[The InnFORCEr]

Has a touch judge raised a flag this season so far?
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Touch judges are extinct in Rugby Jono....they are now an Assistant Refere or should that be Unassisting Referee

[Hansie]

One has to account for Parralax as well the rotation of the Earth in respect of Crusader and All Black passes.

[jono]

6 to one...
Maybe we should change their title back?
The question still stands though. Have the assistant refs raised a flag for a law broken in play?
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[hertryk]

I think the side judges are asleep half/most of the time...Mitch was going ape S*** at the side ref last week for things that were missed....so don't rely on them...