2011 - thinking ahead

[BDAVEY]

All u guru's out there, of the list below who's out of contract at the end of the season

Pek Cowan
Ben Whittaker
Tim Fairbrother
Tom Hockings
Nathan Sharpe (c)
Ben McCalman
David Pocock
Matt Hodgson
Chris O’Young
David Hill
Mark Bartholomeusz
Ryan Cross
Mitch Inman
Scott Staniforth
James O’Connor


Reserves



Nathan Charles
Matt Dunning
Richard Stanford
Richard Brown
Justin Turner
Sam Harris
Haig Sare

OTHERS....?
Shep's
Wilkes
hENDERSON
Tyrell
Longbottom

[pieter blackie]

I am not one of the guru's but this is what I think

There is no chance that Nathan Charles will play for the Force
Wykes, Tyrell & Longbottom will definitely be in the mix

Not to sure what contacts Dunning and Fairbrother have signed

Overall we have the making of a good team for next year

[jombi]

Charles could be contracted, depending on what the ponies do.

I think Pocock is the only major name that hasn't re signed yet.

[BDAVEY]

I am not one of the guru's but this is what I think

There is no chance that Nathan Charles will play for the Force
Wykes, Tyrell & Longbottom will definitely be in the mix

Not to sure what contacts Dunning and Fairbrother have signed

Overall we have the making of a good team for next year

PB.... I would rate u as a Guru Dunning will head to the Rebels I would say be good to keep the (Henderson/FairBro/Pek/KL/Tyrell/Whits/ front row intact for 2011 they are going really well.

[farva]

Dunning has a 2 year contract doesnt he?

[GIGS20]

I think Dunning has an option

[James]

Off contract:

David Pocock
Cameron Shepherd
Scott Staniforth
Chris O'Young
Sam Harris
Nathan Charles (though technically not contracted)

Unknowns:

Justin Turner
Mark Swanepoel
Dunning (Not sure if he has the 1+1 or not)
Tyrrell
Longbottom

Already signed elsewhere:

Luke Jones

Everyone else is contract until 2011 or more. Next years squad looks exactly the same as this one when you consider- Pocock looks like he's re-signing and of the other 5 only Spanner is a starter ATM. I really hope the Force put a lot of effort into getting some more good wingers- that way Spanner can move back into 12 and with a good fly-half we'd have a fair bit of depth in the backline.

[farva]

Off contract:

David Pocock
Cameron Shepherd
Scott Staniforth
Chris O'Young
Sam Harris
Nathan Charles (though technically not contracted)

Unknowns:

Justin Turner
Mark Swanepoel
Dunning (Not sure if he has the 1+1 or not)
Tyrrell
Longbottom

Already signed elsewhere:

Luke Jones

Everyone else is contract until 2011 or more. Next years squad looks exactly the same as this one when you consider- Pocock looks like he's re-signing and of the other 5 only Spanner is a starter ATM. I really hope the Force put a lot of effort into getting some more good wingers- that way Spanner can move back into 12 and with a good fly-half we'd have a fair bit of depth in the backline.

Are there any decent wingers in the local comp?

[WF1964]

2011 - thinking ahead also

It is definitely Super 15 next year isn't it?

How many games will we get?

Will membership cost more?

Is there extended finals?

[jombi]

Last I heard it was 1 game against the SA/NZ sides but 2 home & away against the other aussie sides.

Top placed aussie side on the ladder gets the first finals spot, the next spot goes to the team with the highest ranking in their conference.

So theoretically the force could come 15th next year and still make the finals, as long as we beat the other aussie sides. It's a bit stupid!

[force addict]

i was under the impression we played every team twice. once at our home and once at their home. could be wrong. its definitely confusing.

[Timbo]

2011 - thinking ahead also

It is definitely Super 15 next year isn't it?

How many games will we get?

Will membership cost more?

Is there extended finals?

From a website called Super15 (http://www.superxv.com/format/):

How will the new Super 15 format work ?

The format for the Super15 is not yet completely set in stone because the dates have not yet been released but this is what we know so far. Once the fixtures are released it will make more sense.

There will be three pools or geographic conferences each containing five teams - see table on the right.

Australia, South Africa and New Zealand will each host one pool and the new 15th team will participate in the Australian pool.

The new team is from Melbourne and they are the Melbourne Rebels.

The tournament will start in late February each year with a couple of exceptions.

In 2011 and other world cup years the tournament will start earlier to make space for the world cup.

British and Irish Lions tour years (ie. 2013) could also see the tournament being forced to start two to three weeks earlier.
Super 15 Phase One

The tournament will start with a series of teams playing the other teams in their own conference. Teams will not travel out of their home country at this stage and they will play each team in their conference. (4 Matches per team)
Super 15 Phase Two

After the first round of conference games the teams will then play four of the five teams in each of the other two conferences. Under
this format it is possibly that a team such as the Bulls could miss out on playing the Crusaders one year as the teams will play four of the five teams in the other conferences. They could however meet in the play offs.

These eight games will be a mix of home and away games as they are with the Super14. (Another 8 Matches = 12 in total so far)
Super 15 Phase Three

The tournament will then return to a conference format again and another round of domestic challenges as in Phase One but with the venues reversed. This means that each team in a conference will have a home and an away match with their fellow conference teams by the end of the tournament. (Another 4 matches)

Once these three stages are complete teams will have played a total of 16 round-robin games.

A winner from each conference will be determined from the results in the previous three stages. Each conference will have one winner and therefore Australia, South Africa and New Zealand will each be gauranteed to have one team participating in the finals..
Super 15 Phase Four

The Super15's fourth phase is not really a stage of the tournament at all as the tournament takes a break in June when the All Blacks, Springboks and Wallabies will host tours from international teams - historically from the Northern Hemisphere - these are usually known as the June tours. Once the June tours are complete, the Super 15 resumes and the finals start.
Super 15 Phase Five/Finals

The new format for the Super 15 finals is an expanded format and will feature six teams rather than the Super14's four team format. The six teams will be made up of the conference winners and the three next teams with the highest total number of points. The top two ranked conference winners get a first round bye in the playoffs.

The expanded finals is expected to start in July and will therefore finish in early August.

Based on this, we will get 8 home games (plus finals?)

Will it cost more? As ground hire , etc will be more, I am guessing yes.

[beige]

Will it cost more? As ground hire , etc will be more, I am guessing yes.

As long as it's TV money then it shouldn't matter.

Edit: Ah, memberships - sorry, I get what you mean now...

[BDAVEY]

Gee got all that!!! Timbo...........

[TOCC]

How many games will we get?

Will membership cost more?

yes it will cost more, clubs work out the cost of membership by working out the ground costs/game and then multiplying it by the number of games in the season, with a bit of profit on top.