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    Lote Tuqiri's future on wing and prayer

    Wayne Smith | June 23, 2009

    Article from: The Australian

    WHAT now for Lote Tuqiri if he is not selected today in the Wallabies side to play France at ANZ Stadium on Saturday?

    This is Australia's last outing before embarking on its Tri-Nations campaign, having played two Tests against Italy and a non-capped match against the Barbarians, and still Tuqiri is yet to be seen in a gold jersey this season.

    Meanwhile, all the other wing candidates in the 30-man Australian squad - Lachie Turner, Drew Mitchell, Peter Hynes and Adam Ashley-Cooper - have been given the chance to impress and, to varying degrees, all have done so.

    By contrast, Tuqiri has been sent back to play club football for West Harbour and even there he has lost ground, with Mitchell scoring a dazzling try for Randwick against him in the mud on the weekend.
    Some of the squeeze on the wingers could ease if Ashley-Cooper is chosen at fullback ahead of 18-year-old James O'Connor, but, even so, Turner appears to have one wing spot which leaves Tuqiri as the likely loser in any selection ballot against Hynes and Mitchell.
    It is an astonishing fall from grace for the 67-Test veteran. Since making his debut for the Wallabies against Ireland in 2003, he has only ever sat out international matches because of injury, suspension or rotation, never because he was rated outside the top-two wingers in the country.

    Tuqiri continues to train with the Wallabies and it would not surprise if he was suddenly elevated into the Test side today, particularly considering the quality and experience of the French side. But if he again is passed over, it seems his only chance of figuring in the Tri-Nations will be if injury or loss of form presents him with an opening.

    Today's team selection also should shed some light on what role coach Robbie Deans has in mind for O'Connor in the Tri-Nations. If he envisages him as a starting fullback, then it would make sense for him to get him battle-hardened against the French who, on the evidence of their Test series against the All Blacks, are now playing as physical a brand of rugby as any southern hemisphere power.

    But with Ashley-Cooper in arguably the best form of his life, there is no compelling reason to push O'Connor's rugby development beyond its present breakneck pace. It is not just Ashley-Cooper who has the versatility needed on the bench. O'Connor has it as well, as desperate as he is to play in what would be the biggest Test of his short but stellar career.

    "Physically I am up to the challenge, but I think it's good having a development program that the coaches develop me and see me keep picking up a level," O'Connor said yesterday.

    Seemingly it is only the back three positions that will trigger any great debate at the selectors meeting, although Ryan Cross continues to make the most of every opportunity to turn up the heat on Stirling Mortlock at outside centre. Still, while the Wallabies captain continues to command such respect from opposing defences, the 13 jersey remains safely in his keeping.

    In the forwards, the only real selection hot spot is blindside flanker. With Rocky Elsom, Hugh McMeniman and Matt Hodgson still out with injury, Dean Mumm appears the logical choice, although there is a mounting body of evidence that second row is his better position. But unless the selectors are prepared to turn to Peter Kimlin, who performed solidly in his run-on debut against Italy in Canberra, Mumm's the word.

    It will be intriguing to see how this Test unfolds, given the Wallabies have not yet been stretched this season, while France was fully extended in its two Tests against the All Blacks, just doing enough to win the Dave Gallagher Cup for the first time on a points differential.

    Certainly, Deans does not subscribe to the theory that Les Bleus will be fatigued.
    "They'll be looking to finish their season on a really good note. They would see getting two out of three results in the southern hemisphere as one of their better returns," he said.

    "So that will be their intent. But it's a really important game for us as well. It's the culmination of a good month."

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...015651,00.html

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    Better hand over a bible to Lote, i reckon.

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    I think the reality of Lote's standard in the last couple of years has come home to roost.
    It was really re-inforced to watching the highlights of him playing on The Rugby Club where he ran in some great tries.
    Since then he has lost speed (or everyone else is quicker?) and strayed from pining his ears back and hitting the line.
    I don't think he has played his last Test but I believe he isn't playing well enough in recent times to warrant being selected any time soon either.

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    Waratahs game plan last season didn't exactly help him run into form either. IMHO, I think he is still a strong powerful runner when he gets going, but these days he needs the ball delivered to him spot on.

    Let's praise the lord and pass the ball.

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    All said and done he also needs to come in and look for the ball himself?

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    i think he needs to move into outside centre, he is to big and slow for wing, Mortlcok wasnt a instant sensation at 13, it took him a few seasons

    Lote could plan for the 2011 RWC

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    So, he's now faced with a test of his character and his rugby brain... can he do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOCC View Post
    i think he needs to move into outside centre, he is to big and slow for wing, Mortlcok wasnt a instant sensation at 13, it took him a few seasons

    Lote could plan for the 2011 RWC
    Not a fan of tuquiri at centre. IMO he doesnt run direct enuff doesnt seem to like like the contact, thus why you often see him run laterally so much.

    Id much rather see digby at 13 then tuquiri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haji View Post
    Not a fan of tuquiri at centre. IMO he doesnt run direct enuff doesnt seem to like like the contact, thus why you often see him run laterally so much.

    Id much rather see digby at 13 then tuquiri.
    well one would hope that with a move of position he would also change his style

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    Lote does love to come inside to take the ball, so he could play centre offensively (pardon the Americanism), but his tackling is woeful for such a big guy and he couldn't play 13 defensively.

    This tackling thing is a common problem for league converts, but Lote doesn't seemed to have improved (or was his tackling really woeful in league?)

    I'd have him in the squad for the RWC as a different type of winger - there are always games where you need different tactics and a bigger guys might come in handy (eg, against someone like Samoa).

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    I actually don't think Tuqiri should be moving. I think he should bow out with the resepct he has (I don't know who it's from though). Ryan Cross and Rob Horne and most likely Digby and even Adam Ashely-Cooper would be playing ahead of him. He really is getting on and there are clearly better men to be playing. Lote's time is coming to an end.

    Dear God if they turn him into a commentator when he retires...

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    Wallabies coach Robbie Deans needs Lote Tuqiri, says Tim Horan

    June 25, 2009 .Former Test selector Tim Horan believes Robbie Deans will be taking a huge risk if he overlooks powerhouse winger Lote Tuqiri for the Wallabies' Tri Nations campaign.

    Tuqiri was the only fit member of Deans' 30-man squad not given game time in the June internationals against the Barbarians and Italy and has again been omitted from Saturday night's Test against France in Sydney.

    Unless he's bluffing, Deans looks to have shown his hand by picking speedsters Lachie Turner, Drew Mitchell and Peter Hynes on the wings ahead of Tuqiri so far in 2009.

    Horan, though, believes Deans would be rolling the dice if he left the 67-Test veteran on the outer for the bigger Tests of the winter - most particularly the Bledisloe Cup clashes with the All Blacks.

    “I still believe that Lote should be on the bench somewhere because having a small back three can sometimes hurt you when it's a wet game or a tough game against the All Blacks,'' Horan said.

    “When it's pretty close, you need players to get you across the advantage line.

    “So I'd like to see Lote there in time. He's too good an asset, especially in those tighter games.

    “We saw in the Lions and Springboks match last week that you need bigger players to get across the advantage line and then offload to the quicker players.

    “Sometimes in Test matches, that's the only way to get through that defensive line.''

    Horan acknowledged that being a specialist winger, as opposed to boasting the versatility of a Mitchell or an Adam Ashley-Cooper, was working against Australian rugby's reputed highest-paid player.

    “He can only play one position virtually,'' Horan said.

    “Putting him at outside centre in a Test match would be a last resort, but I just think he's obviously suffered for the way NSW have been playing their game plan.

    “But certainly he's someone who tries to look for the ball ... it will come for him; he'll play more Test matches, there's no doubt.”



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