Giteau's influence persuades Edmonds

[jargan83]

so you don't think the players should step up and take responsibility for being so inconsistant?
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[blueandblack]

you obviously have an agenda regarding John Mitchell given your continued attacks against him
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maybe he wants JM at the Brumbies....

[GIGS20]

meh, right now Anthony Faingaa has impressed me much more then Saia anyway

That's a big call after Anthony's preformance on Sat nite.....then again, I don't even remember if Saia took the field.

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Mitchell has shaped his own troubles.... Nonetheless, putting all that aside he is still coach and is responsible for results not just key players…

Metaphor: Scapegoat
A scapegoat is someone selected to bear blame for a calamity. Scapegoating is the act of holding a person, group of people, or thing responsible for a multitude of problems. Related concepts include frameup, patsy, whipping boy and fall guy.

The definition fits…Giteau is the being used as an scapegoat for Mitchell’s failings…

Unless of course the situation is as the Press have reported it and the team isn;t being run by Mitchell anymore....a point which you made pretty strongly at the start of the season Muddy, so which is is, is Mitchell not being listened to by Giteau, or is he the cause of Giteau's generally disappointing season.....or is it both......maybe John Mitchell is a scapegoat?

[Burgs]

Saia played at the end, gave away a penalty for entering the side of the ruck, had a couple of solid scrums and generally ran around not achieving a great deal.

Anthony's (I think) first touch was a 2m spear pass to the jaw which the commentators called bad hands (about the only way he could have held it was by opening his mouth) and then didn't really do much else.

Both have great potential and should suit Mooney's style but looked a little out of place in this match for mine.

[TOCC]

my opinion wasnt really based on this match, its of the previous matches ive seen these guys play.

Saia is yet to impress me, whilst anthony has done some good things, he appears more of a defender then a attacker, which is potentially why the Chiefs only scored 1 or 2 tries in the second half last week

[AndyS]

The question for mine is why any self-respecting hooker would give a rats about which flyhalf was wasting ball behind him!!??

[Jehna]

I can't believe how much i'm agreeing with muddy these days. It terrifies me...

But I agree. Blame the whole team, the coaching staff, and the committee. Don't pinpoint. It's a team sport and so you must take the good with the bad as a whole. I'm tired of people consistently looking for one person to pinpoint this on

[Burgs]

I think we should blame the Dockers

[shasta]

I can't believe how much i'm agreeing with muddy these days. It terrifies me...

It's well known that you are a big Matt Giteau fan, Jenha. So it's not really surprising considering Muddy's Giteau fixation.

[Darren]

be afraid, be very afraid .....

[Jehna]

It's well known that you are a big Matt Giteau fan, Jenha. So it's not really surprising considering Muddy's Giteau fixation.

Absolutley. I'm also a Drew Mitchell fan but despite that there is little about his game right now that I find pleasing and that I want to defend.

The fact that I'm a fan of Matt Giteau doesn't prevent me from being able to objectively analyse his game. Likewise my usual disdain towards Muddie doesn't prevent me from being able to recognise when he is making sense and praise him for it.

[mudskipper]

meh, right now Anthony Faingaa has impressed me much more then Saia anyway

Anthony is a good player, another young player who needs game time to step up...

[Darren]

The fact that I'm a fan of Matt Giteau doesn't prevent me from being able to objectively analyse his game.

not that I'm joining in the whole gits bashing thang, but how can a fan be objective in the analysis of what they are a fan of? is that like an oxleymoron?

[Burgs]

Anthony is a good player, another young player who needs game time to step up...

Anthony is a good player, another young player who needs game time in a competitive Provincial environment to step up to Super Rugby.

[robyn <3]

Absolutley. I'm also a Drew Mitchell fan

I am not alone Hehe. But I think do I critisise Drew and well... you all know he's my favourite

I don't really get it either Coach. My critisism is biased and I guess he must be playing REALLY badly when I notice