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    Europe Earlybird on Sale

    Get in early for great Europe fares

    Thinking about heading to Europe next year? Get in early for great Earlybird fares to London and over 20 other amazing European destinations at qantas.com, on sale now until midnight (AEDT) 19 December 2008.

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    Bloody travel agents....

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    Don't we get a discount on Emirates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thequeerone View Post
    Don't we get a discount on Emirates
    true dat

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    liked the cheap frankfurt hotel rate in the Qantas quote

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    I booked my flights the day before this was announced......bugger!!!

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    Grrrr.
    Missed it by longer than Jedi did but still

    However - it's a good thing they're doing, and will hopefully benefit from it at some point in 2009!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Em-Forcer View Post
    However - it's a good thing they're doing, and will hopefully benefit from it at some point in 2009!
    Or Mum will!!!!

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    Both Mum & me, I reckon - the old school's having an "ahem"-year reunion in June...
    Actually it's a 19*0's decade reunion, so you could go too

    (I'll leave everyone to decide how best to fill the gaps, I'm saying nothing!)

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