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    I see the RA have signed Hooper to a 6 million dollar deal over five years. Stupidity at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakkies View Post
    I see the RA have signed Hooper to a 6 million dollar deal over five years. Stupidity at its finest.
    All from money they made through the deal with the Victorian government I bet. Instead of putting it into grassroots and developing the next generation of superstars they are happy to piss it away on lightweight players who just get ragdolled regularly by their opposition. Madness. But remember its money for the NSW boys so sshhhhhhhhhhh nothing to see here

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    I have to ask, is there actually any enforcement of the senate inquiry recommendations. It seems like despite the inquiry it was nothing but hot wind. The RA have ignored every recommendation (can anyone actually confirm any have been met?) and the RA have just continued on doing as they pleased [by burning Australian Rugby from the ground up].

    There seems to be only one thing left, unless the senate gets involved again it seems no justice will be met for any of the corrupt deeds that the RA willingly undertook to not only run rugbyWA into the ground, but destroy the only pro outfit and cut off all funding and deny a 50 million dollar donation from a WA mining philantropist. It's a real shame. I'm bitterly dissapointed in ASIC not following through or aggressively pursuing the RA on the senate recommendations after what came out in the inquiry. Nothing has moved forward and Australian rugby has hit rock bottom, the fans have left, the viewers have left, and the administrators like Clyne continue to destroy the sport. As if it's not bad enough he has his grubby mitts all over the NAB royal commission which must surely be destroying what little is left to the RA reputation which is only being upheld by a few blokes on sydneys north shore. The guy has been allowed to aggressively kill the sport with no repucusions frim any of the major state bodies in NSW and QLD. The establishment in Sydney are completly unaware the sport has been left to wither away into oblivion. Clyne needs to go, better yet he needs to be locked up like he deserves. Will justice ever prevail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPaRTAN View Post
    I have to ask, is there actually any enforcement of the senate inquiry recommendations. It seems like despite the inquiry it was nothing but hot wind. The RA have ignored every recommendation (can anyone actually confirm any have been met?) and the RA have just continued on doing as they pleased [by burning Australian Rugby from the ground up].

    There seems to be only one thing left, unless the senate gets involved again it seems no justice will be met for any of the corrupt deeds that the RA willingly undertook to not only run rugbyWA into the ground, but destroy the only pro outfit and cut off all funding and deny a 50 million dollar donation from a WA mining philantropist. It's a real shame. I'm bitterly dissapointed in ASIC not following through or aggressively pursuing the RA on the senate recommendations after what came out in the inquiry. Nothing has moved forward and Australian rugby has hit rock bottom, the fans have left, the viewers have left, and the administrators like Clyne continue to destroy the sport. As if it's not bad enough he has his grubby mitts all over the NAB royal commission which must surely be destroying what little is left to the RA reputation which is only being upheld by a few blokes on sydneys north shore. The guy has been allowed to aggressively kill the sport with no repucusions frim any of the major state bodies in NSW and QLD. The establishment in Sydney are completly unaware the sport has been left to wither away into oblivion. Clyne needs to go, better yet he needs to be locked up like he deserves. Will justice ever prevail?
    you sum it up perfectly

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    More doom and gloom for the upcoming test. Which leaves a genuine question:
    Will Optus Stadium in Perth have a higher Bledisloe cup rugby attendance next year than ANZ stadium in Sydney?

    And this is despite NSW having 3x the population of WA. This completly illustrates just how many fans have turned off rugby in not only WA but the Rugby heartland, NSW, well apparently we are told it is, and they bring with them their tiny crowds which are even tinier when you factor in the head of population count of Sydney alone, which is so much larger when you include the rest of NSW too.

    Castle confident of Bledisloe crowd lift despite sluggish sales
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    By Georgina Robinson
    8 August 2018 7:00pm
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    Rugby Australia are confident there won't be a repeat of last year's record low Bledisloe Cup turn out despite sluggish sales less than two weeks out from the Sydney Test.

    RA chief executive Raelene Castle told the NSW Parliament stadiums inquiry on Monday that 45,000 tickets had been sold to next Saturday's match at ANZ Stadium, leaving the organisation with little time to bridge a gap of almost 10,000 tickets to better the 54,846 who attended in 2017.

    Golden days: The Bledisloe Cup Test in Sydney drew more than 109,000 rugby fans to the Olympic Stadium in 2000.
    Golden days: The Bledisloe Cup Test in Sydney drew more than 109,000 rugby fans to the Olympic Stadium in 2000.

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    But Castle told Fairfax Media on Wednesday she was confident the crowd would end up closer to 60,000 with a late push in the lead up to the Wallabies' opening clash with the All Blacks.

    "North of 55,000, so 58-60,000 is where we think we'll get to," she said. "It will mean that ANZ Stadium at 60,000 will feel really full."

    Attendances at live sporting events are on the wane across Australia and the rest of the world, and the Test calendar's traditional trans-Tasman blockbuster has not been immune.

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    The Wallabies' 54-34 loss to New Zealand last year attracted the smallest crowd of the professional era, well down from the Bledisloe Cup's halcyon days of two decades back, when 109,000 packed the then-Olympic Stadium, in its old configuration, in July 2000.

    Even six years ago the same fixture attracted closer to 80,000, while the 2015 match admittedly in a World Cup year and only 12 months after the Waratahs won the Super Rugby title attracted 73,824.

    One out: Australia's 54-34 loss in the Sydney Test marked a record score for New Zealand against the Wallabies.
    One out: Australia's 54-34 loss in the Sydney Test marked a record score for New Zealand against the Wallabies.

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    On the bright side, this year's decider between Australia and Ireland was held in a sold-out Allianz Stadium (44,085), and the Wallabies' performance in that three-Test series will have Australian fans feeling optimistic about the prospects of a drought-breaking Bledisloe Cup win.

    Australia faces a huge challenge to win the series for the first time in 16 years. Given foreign teams' records at Eden Park in Auckland, realistically the Wallabies must win in Sydney to keep the series alive heading into the third Test in Yokohama, Japan, in October.

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    Next week's match will make history as the first Wallaroos-Wallabies Test match double-header on Australian soil.


    Castle, who formally launched Australia's bid to host the 2021 Women's Rugby World Cup on Wednesday, said she wanted to make double-headers part of the annual schedule.

    "The fact that it [this year] is a double-header has set a standard now [of] what is going to be a regular for us when we play New Zealand," she said. "ANZ Stadium, north of 55,000 people there for the women, we're going to do whatever we can to encourage everyone to get out there and watch that game first. It is those experiences and playing on a big stage in front of a big crowd that will be a great learning experience for our athletes."

    Australia invited Ireland to send their women's team for a three-Test series of double-headers in June but the Ireland Rugby Football Union declined on a cost basis. Castle said combining the fixtures was a natural next step for all tier one rugby nations.

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    "It makes sense from a practical point of view that you would turn all rugby into the future into double-headers," she said. "There's no doubt now that every tier one nation has an established and developing women's program so that's certainly an evolution that I can see in the future."

    Rugby Australia has until Friday to submit its bid to host the 2021 Women's World Cup, with a decision announced in November

    Those comments are delusional, 50k to 60k fans to a Bledisloe in the rugby heartland of Sydney is disgraceful. Who are they kidding when they were once pulling almost 110k. Melbourne regularly get 70-80k attendance to club AFL sides and their are alot more teams in Melbourne competing for the sporting market. Sydney has just gone off rugby. The powers at the top just dont want to realise it. They will just put their heads in the sand and run the RA coffers dry.

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    I don't buy the talk about Hooper being light weight. It is the way Cheika has coached him. He certainly didn't at the Brumbies who contested the breakdown aggressively. Kwagga Smith is 7kg lighter than Hooper and he schooled the Tahs at the breakdown in the semi final.

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    you sum it up perfectly
    The mail from those who have been in touch with the good Senator is that they are investigating. The reality is that they were handed evidence on the day the report was due, submissions came in (probably were overdue like Gary Gray's) and there has been more out there since the report was issued. Eg Nick Taylor's sourced emails that were referred by Sen. Reynolds to ASIC. She even put it out there on her Twitter account.

    The Inquiry barely scratched the surface. None of the documentation that the RA submitted was put up on the Inquiry website (nor was Rob Clarke's questions on notice if he did answer those), paperwork turned up in the middle of hearings and there were a number of people who should have been called up like John O'Neill, Anthony French and Andrew Cox to testify. We could be talking about thousands of pages, financial reports that aren't made public and the tax records from Aus and NZ (Aus treaties allow NZ to provide that information so there is no red tape there).

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