It is an interesting precedent then. Let's hope they are consistent, and every single line break and intercept is now reviewed from all angles from now on. Doesn't matter if the guy is gone, if anyone on the field is prevented from chasing him...
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It is an interesting precedent then. Let's hope they are consistent, and every single line break and intercept is now reviewed from all angles from now on. Doesn't matter if the guy is gone, if anyone on the field is prevented from chasing him...
So I can be 30m away at fullback and all I need to do to have the try disallowed is find somebody to run into?????
This argument is getting a little technical - for mine DHP definitely ran Savea off the ball - and didn't need to. Savea was never going to get Speight.
Having said that, I'm not happy with the TMO overruling the on-field referee on matters of general play when not asked. Too much room for inconsistency.
He would have to change a line or impede, but if you can draw an instinctive behaviour that seems the pretty clear conclusion from "That Speight was "gone" was not relevant. They remain infringements that happened before the "try" was scored". A line break from within your own half, it could pretty much mean anyone on the field. Otherwise, whether Savea could have effected a tackle that would prevent a try is entirely pertinent to the decision.
Foley should have rushed the kick and it would have been too late anyway!
The difference in speed of conversions was a little down to the placement, Cruden's being in front of the posts so much more feasible to drop it over.
I have to admit, it's unlike Owens not to see that Savea was the first infringer ... impeding DHP so it should have been a "you're both as bad as each other" style reprimand from no nonsense Owens.
What has concluded is the NZ ability to manipulate the referees. DHP might think that flinging himself into touch next time Savea goes near him would be the go ... but being the better rugby player, he got on with it & continued to support. Savea knew all was lost so made the best he could of the situation ...
World Rugby should look at the conversion clause ... it should be disregarded if foul play is raised & the 2 points goes along with the 5. Stops the crap ...
Hi Icky I am asking a question here and want your advice on the rulings of being infront of a ball carrier..We see this many times at the rucks and at the receiving of kick offs were players stand in front of the ball catcher and it makes a player run around to get access to the catcher..Does this come under clause 10.1 C ... We also see a wall next to a ruck protecting the halve.. In my days of playing many players got pinged for being offside if playing in front of the ball.. I know it is done by many teams but how do you police this a I see it preventing a player from getting to the ball carrier.. This Is a ??? not a criticism .. I would like some advice
Another question Ecky, what is the definition of blocking? As for me the contact between the 2 players can hardly be translated as block! But then under 10.4 playing the player without the ball is probably the bit that makes the try to be disallowed.
Not disputing your post but just before that, Savea and Read were trying to hold DHP back at the same time. This is okay?
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No definition in law of blocking. The law is:
10.1 Obstruction
(a)Charging or pushing. When a player and an opponent are running for the ball, either player must not charge or push the other except shoulder-to-shoulder.
Sanction: Penalty kick
(b)Running in front of a ball carrier. A player must not intentionally move or stand in front of a team-mate carrying the ball thereby preventing opponents from tackling the current ball carrier or the opportunity to tackle potential ball carriers when they gain possession.
Sanction: Penalty kick
(c)Blocking the tackler. A player must not intentionally move or stand in a position that prevents an opponent from tackling a ball carrier.
Sanction: Penalty kick
(d)Blocking the ball. A player must not intentionally move or stand in a position that prevents an opponent from playing the ball.
Sanction: Penalty kick
(e)Ball carrier running into team-mate. A player carrying the ball must not intentionally run into team-mates in front of that player.
Sanction: Penalty kick
So one looks at whether the player prevents the oppo from being able to tackle the player or play the ball.
Thanks Ecky